The following link is an opinion of the S T A T E O F T E N N E S S E E ATTORNEY GENERAL concerning the constitutionality of the TDOS's Rules of the Road for municipalities under 10,000 residents:

Traffic Enforcement on Interstate Highways Constitutional Opinion No. 05-107

in short, this is the opinion:


...there is a conceivable rational basis for requiring cities with a population of 10,000 or less to comply with state regulations when regulating traffic on interstate and national defense highways within their city limits, while exempting cities with larger populations from the same requirement. In smaller cities, less local traffic is likely to use the interstate highway system. These cities, therefore, have less local interest in this regulation. Further, smaller cities are likely to have fewer resources to develop an enforcement system applicable to interstate highways. Finally, the stretch of highway within any one such municipality is likely to be small. Because of the number of smaller cities in Tennessee, there is a legitimate state interest in ensuring that these larger numbers of smaller portions of interstate highways are regulated in a uniform manner. For these reasons, this classification is constitutional.

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These cities, therefore, have less local interest in this regulation.

Apparently our legislators hadn't met Danny Crosby to discuss his views on this goldmine they laid in his lap.

oh yea, all in the name of safety!

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As a true conservative and Libertarian following after the founders of this great land, I see the need for those "checks and balances". We must have smaller government doing as little as possible to interfere with personal freedom. These persnnal kingdoms set up by the likes of the Ford Family in Memphis are perfect examples of government gone wild. We only really need protection of our borders and from thugs plus environmental oriented concerns like food safety and drinking supply cleanliness. We can not regulate everything like we do now and expect small governments. Some things, like deciding how long to let your hair grow, are off limits. We let free enterprise rule the day and people buy the goods they wish. Limited gun rules related to when to use them in self defense only situations or the government will step in. Your freedom ends at the tip end of my nose. We have become a system of "nanny's and pupils". The "nanny's" want to tell everyone what to do as if we were childeren in school just like the founders predicted would happen without vigilence from the citizens. This is so much like what happened in history with Rome and Greece. The government takes over everything and spends wildly on self preservation and loses the sight of why it was needed in the first place. We have a chance to change our path but without the media who refuse to seek the truth anymore. I read where they have created the Web 2 and it will cost a lot of money to use it. When the start it they will slowly take out the backbone and soul of the way we have it today on the web. We may have to use thumbscans to get access. Thus, blowing any chance at anonimnity and true intellectual freedom without fear of real reprisals. Look for yourself about the web2.

True conservatism and libertarian following the ideas of our founding fathers?, Now I'm a conservative, but even I know John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were liberals to the extreme. I hate to rain on your parade, but with a GLOBAL economy, small government just isn't going to do it. Even our current city government has to have a certain size to provide. Are you saying eliminate drivers licenses? Building permits, zoning regulations or city workers? Figure out the payroll of Coopertown without police. 148000 dollars Peggy was reporting at the finance meeting, that's 4900 dollars per citizen, 9.25 dollars an acre. That doesn't include paving at 100 dollars a ton of asphalt. We need federal dollars, state dollars, and other dollars, some from traffic fines. People need to pull their heads out of the sand and look around, what are we going to do? To not grow nor change is to die. We will be taken over by another city or county government and become their landfill or dump. A city must decide where it wants to go, and get the majority behind them. I get sick of people that think we can stay like it was 20 or 30 years age, it ain't gonna happen. We have a choice to make, are we going to be the northern Brentwood or Antioch of Nashville. We cannot keep Nashville from growing, nor Robertson county. And I hate to break this to you, but Coopertown is going to grow to, just how is to be answered. I would like to see small villages built inside Coopertown, sidewalks and parks within walking distances of every house, places for families to gather including an ice cream store or such. That takes planned growth, not just let people build where ever.

I want our "next" government to be well read on planning city growth, be educated on green building and growth that promotes family. Smart on finance to let new residents pay for this type of growth. What do you want?

I disagree with your feeling of their being liberalism in thier mindset. If you watched the "John Adams" series you would have easily seen that the wants of the liberals principal at that time were not even in the process. How could they when their whole reason for being was to free men from the burdens and shackles of rulership and big government armies enforcing the governments/kings fickle will upon mankind?


It was either extreme right wing conservative like the quakers or right wing conservatives that ran things. People like Alexander Hamilton, who was a banker and pushing the bankers agenda, where liberal but their ideas ultimitately were repeatedly rejected up until the Lincoln era. Jackson brought them down after their second attempt at a National bank. Then was the first president to be attempted to be assisnated shortly after. Both Lincoln and Kennedy printed their own gold or silver backed money shortly before their demise.

After Hamilton's National banking system was finally fully initiated some liberal ideas were becoming reality. Like freeing the slaves which was surely the right one. Things like the Russian Revolution were thought of in places like Walden's Pond here in America. This is because the elites, that we think of as "they" in our talks about what they are doing to us, know that we free people are a threat to their plans. Plans of total financial domination and, dare we think it, slavery of all men not just blacks.

It sounds harsh but it seems to be the facts if you take a close look and keep up with who did what to whom. I feel like since the time that women were allowed to go to work, the system has rearranged itself to be where you need two salaries to live a middle class life. A life that is being squeezed out today!


The money to wage war comes from the banks if your waivering on belief. Now throw in this oil mess/crisis where the people who make alternatives are denied the ability to go to market with devices like the MTSU car that can run on plain old tap water, and we have a problem that goes beyond the common man's ability to comprehend how to fix it.

That spells economic hardships for many which might mean class warfare so the liberals use freebies out of the governments good heart as a means to fix it and the people vote those people to office. We should see by now that they are liars and cheats. All the while giving the poor a bone they are bilking the system. That is why we should be voting for true conservatives of a Liberterian belief system from my perspective.

I will vote Barr this time but I feel both media coronated political parties are flaming liberal!!! Their claim of conservative is false. They are only really conservative to the poor and they surely tend to give to themselves and close friends. Those "they's" are very liberal indeed with our money and resources if your the right person!! Just think about what we have seen from the so called conservatives with their no bid contracts. We all remember the 700$ hammers and toilet seats during the Reagan administration and I beleive it is still that way today with the Pentagon losing billions in dollars it told the budget office it cannot explain.

No, those founding fathers were radically conservative demanding vigilence be put in place to preserve freedom through extremely limited government. Not only that but they saw fit to let the people have weapons so they may be able to throw out the government when it became tyrannical. Now many feel that is clearly conservatives think tank stuff.

Could you please clarify this part of your post:

Figure out the payroll of Coopertown without police. 148000 dollars Peggy was reporting at the finance meeting, that's 4900 dollars per citizen, 9.25 dollars an acre. That doesn't include paving at 100 dollars a ton of asphalt.

I am not on the Finance Committee. Are you referring to a post I made about the budget for salaries for the street crew? If so, that amount doesn't include salaries for office staff - city recorder, police clerks, etc.

No it doesn't include the other salary's, which makes the payrole even higher. Which means more per citizen and more per acre. Big governments make developers put in roads, sidewalks, and street lighting before building, which turns out to be a user tax for the people buying the house. It lessens the cost to the city. Add a three acre park in that requirement, and set aside a location for commercial and you have a little community inside a city, where people can walk around and get to know neighbors like the good ol' days.

B..., Our first constution was weak federal and strong state, didn't make it 5 years before they rewrote the current one, strong federal with certain state rights. Jefferson's ideas on the bill of rights came from a french writter, Volaire, who was considered a left wing radical in his time. To develope a republic in their time was very left wing. Let us not forget Washington turned down the offer to be king, which at the time was the conservative idea.

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developers put in roads, sidewalks, and street lighting before building, which turns out to be a user tax for the people buying the house. It lessens the cost to the city. Add a three acre park in that requirement, and set aside a location for commercial and you have a little community inside a city, where people can walk around and get to know neighbors like the good ol' days.

Sounds like Pleasant View only we don't patrol the interstate for revenue.

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Volaire having some left wing thoughts compared to those in that crazy right wing society is not cause for alarm. It is left wing compared to those of that day who burned heretics. Today it is very conservative but it was not so much that it is right wing war hounds. Except to anybody but native americans they sought to stay neutral in conflicts abroad and deal with our border and protecting for our shipping needs only.

When I read 1.2 million in tickets just on the interstate, I was holy cow that's a lot of money. Then I noticed, no one is commenting on the fact that we may have a problem with speeders on the interstate. I really started paying attention and now notice the speed when you cross the county line, goes from 70 to 85 in 15 yards. Coming home it goes from 85 to 70 also. When I was 20 I loved 85 and higher, now that I'm 50, 70 is fast enough. I am becoming an obstruction at the Cheatum line for only going 75. Maybe patroling the interstate is not such a bad idea.....just a thought

Dittio oldmaen, I too notice the speed differential going across the county line and I too have slowed down mostly because I get better gas mileage. There is opportunity to catch speeders all day long along I24 no matter what county or state you are in. People go through Nashville doing 70 in a 55. That is the gold mine Crosby found to fund the city all in the name of safety. If he would just "man up" and admit the obvious I would have more respect for him, but to bald face lie to everybody when they all know it's all about the money is just beyond belief. Just one problem with the I24 gold mine. You can only fund so much. You have to have money coming in from other sources to run a government in a growing city. If you don't, you don't grow and Coopertown is proof of that. Look across the highway and see how it's done without all police cars lined up across the bridge or mile marker 28.

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Well, old one I do not have a problem with ticketing people who are speeding. I have a problem with where we operate and have signs that have had us getting people simply because they don't know the situation is there is a sign over the hill like we had initially on hwy 49. It was intensified when it was raised and lowered again. That was bad. If one gets one on I 24 doing 85 mph they wont get sympathy but the guy getting a subjective one like following too closely, he does get some sympathy. After all, his case is more believable to unbiased observers. This man will probably carry out his claim to class action lawsuit the city. His subjective non speeding kind of ticket will cause a Judge or jury to ponder the arguement more than any person could expect to happen with a speeding related fine. It is so obvious that speeding is a violation but I still prefer less government even on the interstates. However, I would not like some cars running like a freight train coming by me at over 100 like the autobahn either.

I agree with the above post,having lived and worked in all parts of Houston for twenty years,the saying was when in Rome do as the romans.Go with the flow.Being a little older now I get intimidated when I'm doing seventy-eight in a seventy zone and have people drafting my rear bumper.Yes,following to closely, a subjective call,I'm trying to recall what they teach you in driving school.Watch the vehicle in front of you and count to one thousand two before you pass what the first vehicle went by.Ever Driven in Florida?Much like Houston,bumper to bumper going as fast as traffic will allow,scares the day lights out of me now when i go back.Robert

They used to teach us a car length for every 10mph. You try 6 car lenghts in rush hour in any city in America and you will feel like your moving backward to the end of the longest line. Cars will be zipping inches past your bumper to change lanes inches past the bumper of two cars in front of you ticking off all the careful drivers who would not dare be so rude. Now that is why people demand enforcement and the debate of how it came to pass is simple. The question remains, is it Constitutional? I think it is to a point. As long as minimal interference for safety is being the goal. I would maybe like to see faster than what we have now but emphasis on COURTESY rather than speed. Rudeness causes road rage to flair in the most casual of people that would normally be quite and harmless. If someone is barreling down the hwy, get over for them as soon as you can but don't begrudge them moving fast if your not willing to do so either. I get over and say there goes a guy taking a big chance!

It is a shame that people think that the world must move at such a fast pace that they must speed. When you pull out of your drive way you are taking your life in your hands. People on the interstate think it is okay to run 85 - 100 in a 70 speed limit. On the back roads they run 50-65 when it is only 30. I hate it when you try to run the speed limit and people pull up behind you honking their horn because you do not run faster. People also do not seem to know what a stop sign means. They are there for everyones safety. Even if you do not see antone it means you are to come to a full stop not run through it as fast as you can.

Robert, It didn't take a cop writing me a ticket to slow me down even back when I was 18 years old. I had, as my first car, a GTO and I was invincible. I loved the speed that ol' muscle car provided until one day I was doing 80 mph on a country road in Williamson county. Sneed Road as a matter of fact and we just had one of those summer rains. I was flying up the hill when I hit what I call a Dairy Dip and did a 360 right in the middle of the road and the only thing that saved me from going down into a ravine was the gravel on the shoulder. That, my good man, was more of a learning experience than any amount of tickets I could ever receive on that notorious stretch of I24 known as Coopertown.

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