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Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 308 Location: Pleasant View
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: TDOT ready to install exit lights
From today's Tennessean:
Coopertown to pay for project near Pleasant View line
The Tennessee Department of Transportation is ready to install lights at the Coopertown's Interstate 24 exit, provided the city pays its share of the cost.
Originally, Robertson County, Cheatham County, Pleasant View and Coopertown were in talks to work together to bring the project to completion. The project has been in jeopardy following a disagreement in December 2006 that led to Pleasant View Mayor Kerry McCarver's public withdrawal of support via his newspaper.
Little has changed since then in terms of communications between the four governments.
"I have extended a hand to everybody involved and basically there has been no reply on anything," Coopertown Mayor Danny Crosby said.
One major sticking point between the governments is the cost of the project.
The current proposal put forth by the City of Coopertown includes 17 lights of varying sizes to light the interstate exit at an estimated cost of $549,234. The original plan featured fewer lights and a smaller price tag in the range of $330,000 and was favored by Pleasant View and Robertson and Cheatham counties.
In a letter to Coopertown, TDOT places the city's share of the cost, if none of the other governments participate, at $345,232. However, Crosby remains adamant that the more expensive project is the way to go.
"If the city of Coopertown is going to be left holding the bag anyway two or three years from now, why not go on and fix it correctly the first go around," he said. "You're only talking about a price difference of $150,000 now to fix it correctly."
Robertson County has been contacted by Coopertown to come back to the discussion table, according to County Mayor Howard Bradley.
"I said I didn't have much hope of that happening," Bradley said. "I told him if he could get Pleasant View and Cheatham there, I would be there too."
"The exit is entirely in Coopertown, and whatever they want to pay for is great," McCarver said.
Crosby said the other mayors have until the next Coopertown Board of Mayor and Aldermen meeting to contact him or the city will move forward with the project on their own.
"Coopertown will survive," Crosby said.
The next Coopertown Board meeting is set for Tuesday, Feb. 28, at 7 p.m.
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Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 308 Location: Pleasant View
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: TDOT ready to install exit lights
Mayor Crosby wrote:
"I have extended a hand to everybody involved and basically there has been no reply on anything," Coopertown Mayor Danny Crosby said.
What would you expect Mayor, they are getting the lights for free now.
Mayor Crosby wrote:
Crosby said the other mayors have until the next Coopertown Board of Mayor and Aldermen meeting to contact him or the city will move forward with the project on their own.
I don't understand this quote. Mayor Crosby speaks as if the other three mayor's lose if they don't contact him. Tell you what I'd do if I was you Mayor, I'd take them all out to Red Lobster, my treat, and try to reconcile.
_________________ The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum. Adlai E. Stevenson American Lawyer, Politician.
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 308 Location: Pleasant View
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject:
Crosby’s Freeway Lighting Decision -2-14-08
Yesterday it was reported in the Robertson County Times that Coopertown is willing to go it alone to get the freeway lights that Mayor Crosby demands. This decision could turn out to be the right one for Coopertown, but I fail to see Mayor Crosby’s logic.
First of all, Coopertown has only three gas stations at the exit that might benefit from the lights. Pleasant View has many businesses and a large discount gas station that will benefit.
Second, Coopertown keeps a couple of police cruisers stationed on the freeway....
Read the rest of Sam Child's commentary on the lighting issue:
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Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 308 Location: Pleasant View
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject:
Coopertown still wants lights at I-24 exit
Not an update, just a different way of saying the same thing form the RCTimes as reported in The Tennessean:
Robertson County
The Tennessee Department of Transportation is ready to install lights at Coopertown's Interstate 24 exit, if the city pays its share of the cost.
At first, Robertson County, Cheatham County, Pleasant View and Coopertown were discussing a joint project, but after a disagreement in December 2006, Pleasant View Mayor Kerry McCarver publicly withdrew his support.
"I have extended a hand to everybody involved and basically there has been no reply on anything," said Coopertown Mayor Danny Crosby.
One major sticking point is the cost of the project. Coopertown's proposal includes 17 lights of varying sizes at an estimated cost of $549,234. The original plan featured fewer lights and a price tag in the $330,000 range; it was favored by Pleasant View and Robertson and Cheatham counties.
In a letter to Coopertown, TDOT places the city's share of the cost, if none of the other governments participate, at $345,232.
Crosby remains adamant that the more expensive project is the way to go.
"If the city of Coopertown is going to be left holding the bag anyway ... why not go on and fix it correctly the first go around?" he said.
_________________ The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum. Adlai E. Stevenson American Lawyer, Politician.
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 308 Location: Pleasant View
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject:
Quoting Mayor Crosby The Tennessean wrote:
"If the city of Coopertown is going to be left holding the bag anyway ... why not go on and fix it correctly the first go around?" he said.
Why does he not explain, with documentation, why he keeps saying "fix it" when the project hasn't even been started? How can you "fix" something that isn't in existence yet? Why does this "fix" cost Coopertown $345,232 if they go it along? So many questions and so few answers. I beginning to think the citizens of Coopertown don't even care. It's the "politics as usual" syndrome.
The only reason Coopertown is "going it alone" is due to Mayor Crosby's closed door policy of running his government.
_________________ The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum. Adlai E. Stevenson American Lawyer, Politician.
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 308 Location: Pleasant View
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject:
Mayor Crosby in the Dec 2006 MBA meeting wrote:
....It would be like taking a big cigarette lighter and striking it, except for lighting the bridge area..... Mayor Crosby stated that he and Brian rode Sunday night out 40 heading towards Memphis, then Knoxville and back up 24. The areas that were lit up were where you could even see a person crossing a bridge.....
Could this be it? He wants the bridge lit up so he can see people crossing over? Like pedestrian traffic is a big issue on the overpass at night? Is there this huge exodus of Coopertown citizens escaping to Pleasant View under the cover of darkness escaping even the watchful eye of the Border Patrol? I do know the reverse would not be an issue. I don't know, I'm just asking questions. I do know one thing, it would take one heck of a cigarette lighter to light the interstate bridge, Now that is something I would love to see.
_________________ The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum. Adlai E. Stevenson American Lawyer, Politician.
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 308 Location: Pleasant View
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject:
Residents respond to new interstate lighting
As a proposed lighting project designed to illuminate Coopertown’s Interstate 24 exit moves closer to becoming a reality, citizens are having mixed reactions.
“I live in Pleasant View and I think they need to get lights,” Lisa Roberts, assistant manager of a Mapco station near the exit, said. “It would bring more business to the small businesses in this area after dark, for both Pleasant View and Coopertown.”
_________________ The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum. Adlai E. Stevenson American Lawyer, Politician.
_________________ The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum. Adlai E. Stevenson American Lawyer, Politician.
_________________ The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum. Adlai E. Stevenson American Lawyer, Politician.
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 308 Location: Pleasant View
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: Interstate Lights and we are over budget!!??
Let's see here....$307.000 in the hole over budget or as the city auditor did his song and dance over, $100,000 plus over budget due to the city paying Crosby's legal bills and still he wants the city to pay for his tractor!
Would you read this for me Larry seeings I only have a 9th grade education.
ps: could be another lawsuit coming around the bend.
_________________ The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum. Adlai E. Stevenson American Lawyer, Politician.
_________________ The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum. Adlai E. Stevenson American Lawyer, Politician.
If we have not received your deposit ($515,000) by close of business on May 2, 2008. We will pull this project from the letting.
Today is April 30, 7:30PM and the deadline is just a little less than 48 hours away. Has the deposit been made yet? Is it going to be made by the deadline? Did the mayor have to borrow the money as he stated he would? Would this loan be similar to a sub-prime loan which has the mortgage market in a tailspin? Anyone have any updates? I want the lights for safety reasons but I don't want my back yard lite up which the 100 foot poles would probably do.
_________________ The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum. Adlai E. Stevenson American Lawyer, Politician.
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: what I was told
The lights are on hold as a person, from the finance committee I assumed, mentioned to us at city hall that a deal was hopefully in the works as an extension was granted.
I wonder about the comment I had heard and was reportedly said by the state comptroller auditor that the citizens have to be formally notified of a possible need to collect property taxes to secure the loan? This is associated with the request to get such a huge loan legally through the MTAS process.
That and the small amount of money that has been spent on roads will kill his campaign. He can scramble to last minute stuff all day long but you got to have money to buy things. That is one reason he donated his tractor: to aid his campaign. That is also why he thinks he can do this. However, they don't grow money on trees nor the ready made supplies needed to repave roads. The companies who have those commodities require payment and if our auditor that we hired was right about budget shortfalls, we got a problem that must be brewing there just like the all States do thanks to the oil costs destroying our economy (No thank you Dems or Rep's for sitting on new idea's that could let us thumb our nose at oil). With money tight where are we going to get the road funds or any light money? Those simple questions will take a heavy toll in the voting booth because the roads are obviosly bad on several highly traveled routes that we are responsible for. Some of them were left that way in my humble opinion to get at the Wilson clan. There was a road that was a driveway that Crosby worked after refusing to because it was a driveway and he told the reporter he did not know. The next week he won't work roads that are gravel he calls driveways that ARE listed as streets. Weird he even did the good deed for the first guy but he hurt himself the next time and people who live near here get to laugh at us, like you.
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 308 Location: Pleasant View
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:40 am Post subject:
x-chief rose wrote:
As for your roads getting paved, they will be paved when it gets close to election time. That is one of the mayors plans so it will hopefully get him more votes.
That is Crosby's plan Billy but with the economy the way it is now and the high cost of the interstate lights and being over the budget due to his legal cost, he might have a hard pressed time paving roads at election time. Another factor to come forward in recent months is direct competition, for Coopertown, from the plans to install lights along with city sewage at Exit 31. I think Crosby waited to late to play his political "aces in the hole" to gain a reelection advantage. Political grandstanding on a tractor mowing grass those scoreboard signs are about the best he can come up with anymore.
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